
Your ICT Strategy Is Incomplete Without This | Casper SMC
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In this episode of The Order Book, the host, Maine, interviews his friend Jesse, known online as Casper SMC. Jesse is a seasoned trader and mentor, particularly successful in the futures market, who has evolved from being an ICT (Inner Circle Trader) acolyte to incorporating more advanced order flow and volume profile analysis.
Jesse shares his remarkable life story, transitioning from a troubled past involving drug-related legal issues, where he faced significant prison time, to becoming a highly successful and free individual through trading. He recounts how, while fighting his case and unable to secure traditional employment due to his public legal troubles, he was forced to take trading seriously. Initially, he dabbled in various trading methods like harmonics and Elliot wave, and even bought a "terrible" algo. His breakthrough came when he discovered ICT concepts, initially applying them to crypto futures with a focus on 4-hour order blocks for 15-minute entries.
His success in trading led him to become a coach in a trading group. Due to Discord's streaming limitations, he began streaming on YouTube, where an early video on market maker models unexpectedly went viral, launching his content creation journey. At this point, he had accumulated nearly half a million dollars from trading, which enabled him to hire a more effective lawyer for his ongoing legal battle. Ultimately, he chose to risk trial over accepting an 8-year sentence, a decision that paid off when he received probation instead, freeing him from the immense pressure he had been under.
Jesse emphasizes that his experience facing such extreme risks helped him immensely in trading, particularly in managing risk. He differentiates his trading from "desperation" to "dissociation," where he didn't care about the outcome, a stark contrast to traders driven by fear of failure or a desire to escape an undesirable life. He believes true risk acceptance means being in a flow state, detached from the outcome, which is difficult when one's entire existence is tied to it.
The discussion then shifts to Jesse's evolution as a trader, specifically his integration of order flow, heat maps, and bubble maps with traditional price action concepts. He clarifies that ICT principles are fundamentally correct, but order flow tools provide a visual, mathematical verification of these concepts. He started this transition about a year and a half ago after networking with institutional traders while developing a trading software. He observed that virtually all successful institutional traders, regardless of their specific market or strategy, utilized order flow tools like volume profile, footprint charts, time and sales data, and heat maps.
Jesse explains that many traders develop an ego attached to their strategies, falling victim to the sunk cost fallacy, where they cling to what they've invested time and effort into, even if better tools exist. He realized that incorporating order flow wasn't about changing his strategy but gaining confidence and clarity by seeing the underlying market mechanics. For instance, he can mathematically verify a liquidity sweep or an order block (which he defines as a high-volume node before a big move). Order flow also offers a mechanical way to determine market bias, by observing where participants are willing to pay and whether aggressive buying or selling is moving the market.
He demonstrates how to interpret heat maps, which show passive areas of liquidity (limit orders) waiting at specific price levels. Red bubbles indicate negative delta, meaning more aggressive sellers than buyers in an area, while green bubbles show positive delta (more aggressive buyers). He illustrates a scenario where aggressive buying fails to move price significantly, indicating passive selling (absorption) by smart money, often at key liquidity levels, leading to a bearish reversal. Conversely, a strong push through a passive selling area, backed by aggressive buying and healthy Cumulative Volume Delta (CVD), signals continued bullish momentum.
Jesse highlights the utility of these tools in distinguishing between a liquidity sweep (SFP or Swing Failure Pattern) and a genuine breakout. Instead of relying on low-timeframe confirmations, order flow provides real-time data to verify if liquidity is actually being swept and if large orders are being absorbed. He likens it to an X-ray, providing a view "underneath the skin" of the market, confirming if the orders and transactions are genuinely occurring at chart-identified levels. This objective data helps traders make better decisions, reducing reliance on subjective "feel" and discretion.
He then explains the volume profile, which displays volume traded at specific price levels rather than over time. Low Volume Nodes (LVNs) often correspond to fair value gaps (FVGs) in ICT, representing areas where the market moves from balance to imbalance. By observing volume profiles, traders can identify which FVGs are more likely to be respected.
Jesse also shares his favorite application of volume profile for determining market bias. By analyzing the cash session (9:30 AM to 4 PM New York time) where most volume is traded, he identifies the "value area" (where 70% of the day's volume was traded) and the "point of control" (the highest volume price). If the market closes outside the previous day's value area, it provides a strong bias for the next day. For example, if it closes above, it suggests a bullish bias, especially if the next day opens above that value area. This mechanical approach helps traders anticipate market direction and identify optimal points to fade counter-trend moves.
He illustrates this with an example where a bullish bias was evident, and traders looking to sell at overnight highs (bearish liquidity sweeps) were likely to be wrong. By observing aggressive buyers overcoming passive sellers at these levels, supported by strong CVD, a clear long opportunity emerged with a tight stop loss. This process simplifies trading: determine flow/direction, identify key levels, and then look for absorption or strong pushes through these levels.
The conversation concludes with Jesse recommending Tony Robbins' book "Awaken the Giant Within" as highly influential on his psychology, trading, and life. He recounts an anecdote about a mastermind group where individuals with no prior trading experience achieved significant payouts (six figures from Apex within 4-6 months) by approaching trading with a different mindset. He contrasts this with dedicated traders who struggle for years, attributing the success of the former to their higher "intellectual level" and better belief systems, rather than a secret strategy. He believes most people have limiting beliefs and an incorrect way of thinking, which holds them back. The book helped him understand true intelligence and embrace "woo-woo" concepts like the law of attraction, which he observes are often adopted by the world's most successful individuals.
Maine also touches on current Poly Market predictions, including the upcoming World Cup, where he has placed various long-shot bets, noting how odds fluctuate like trades. He also discusses the anticipated SpaceX IPO, expecting it to be a significant market event, potentially marking a peak in market "mania." He maintains a bullish outlook on SpaceX due to Elon Musk's aggressive performance incentives. Finally, he considers the crude oil market, noting the potential impact of the UAE leaving OPEC on global oil supply and price, and observes gold, predicting a potential new all-time high by June.