
I Owe $80,000 In Taxes and Don't See A Way Out
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The caller, Josh, has $80,000 in tax debt and $50,000 in credit card debt, totaling $130,000. His income is $70,000, and his wife's seasonal income from cleaning Airbnbs and caregiving brings their combined income to around $100,000. Their monthly rent is $2,200. Josh's take-home pay is $4,400, and his wife's is about $3,000 on average. He's considering bankruptcy because the debt feels insurmountable, with taxes accruing interest and penalties, and credit card debt, once manageable with balance transfers, now out of control due to high interest, despite making minimum payments.
The hosts emphasize the need for a budget and increased income. They challenge Josh's wife's seasonal work, stating that for someone facing bankruptcy, working "every season" is necessary, potentially 60 hours a week. Josh explains his wife is resentful of working, but the hosts dismiss the 14-year-old child as an excuse for not earning more.
The hosts suggest Josh needs an additional $3,600 a month to make significant progress. They propose he pick up overtime or a second job, aiming for an extra $2,000-$2,500 monthly. Josh agrees he could, having worked two jobs before, but questions if it's worth it, estimating it would still take four to five years to pay off the debt.
One host shares his experience of paying off $460,000 in debt over seven and a half years without bankruptcy, despite being 51 to Josh's 47. They argue that bankruptcy relinquishes control to the courts, who will dictate payment plans or asset sales. Instead, they encourage Josh to retain dignity by taking control: calling the IRS for a payment plan, deciding which assets to sell, and working diligently. While the next four to five years will be challenging, the hosts assure Josh that overcoming this debt will build confidence and transform him into a better person. They stress that Josh and his wife must get on the same page regarding their finances.